MORE THOUGHTS ON HATE SPEECH AND THE LAW

February 15, 2011 § 11 Comments

More from my interview with Peter Molnar on hate speech regulation, the whole of which will be published in the forthcoming book Regulating Hate Speech: Content, Context, and Remedies (Cambridge University Press):

Peter Molnar: Do you think that violent acts committed by hateful motivation deserve stricter punishments?

Kenan Malik: I accept that intentions are not just morally but also legally relevant, and that different intentions can result in the imposition of different sentences. But when we make a distinction between, say, murder and manslaughter, we are making a distinction based on the kind or degree of harm the perpetrator intended. When it is suggested, however, that a racist murderer should receive a greater punishment than a non-racist murderer, a different kind of distinction is being drawn. The distinction here is not between the degrees of harm intended – in both cases the killer intended to kill – but between the thoughts that were in the minds of the respective killers. The distinction is between someone who might be thinking, ‘I am going to kill you because I hate you because you looked at me the wrong way’ and someone who might be thinking ‘I am going to kill you because I hate you because you are black.’

What is being criminalized here is simply a thought. And I am opposed to the category of thought crimes. Racist thoughts are morally offensive. But they should not be made a criminal offence.

Proponents argue that raising the punishment for hate crimes will (a) protect those whose are abused or attacked simply because they belong to a particular group and (b) send a message about the kind of society we wish to promote. But that is not fundamentally different from the argument for the criminalization of hate speech. And I am opposed to it for the same reason that I am opposed to the criminalization of hate speech.

PM: But does it not make a substantial difference that one might be able to avoid being attacked by not looking at her/his potential attackers the wrong way, while one cannot change her/his skin color?

KM: To the victim, such a distinction is, of course, of little comfort. There is also an implication here that some victims cannot help being victims, while others could, by having behaved differently, have avoided their misfortune. While this is not the same as suggesting that some victims ask to be victims, it is moving in that direction, and we should be careful about how far down this road we go.

The real issue remains the same: should murderers with racist intent be punished to a greater degree than those with other kinds of malicious intent? I accept that racism is a pernicious social evil that needs specifically to be combated. But I reject the idea that we can, and should, combat racism by outlawing racist thoughts. If you accept, as I do, that thoughts in themselves – even racist thoughts – should not be legally prohibited, then you have to accept that a racist thought that leads to murder should not be seen as legally different from a non-racist thought that leads to murder.

PM: How, in your view, could we improve the social (non-legal) responses to ‘hate speech’?

KM: The whole point of free speech is to create the conditions for robust debate. And one reason for such robust debate is to be able to challenge obnoxious views. To argue for free speech but not to utilize it to challenge obnoxious, odious and hateful views seems to me immoral. It is morally incumbent on those who argue for free speech to stand up to racism and bigotry.

At the same time, however, we should be clear that what often legitimizes bigotry are the arguments not of the bigots but of mainstream politicians and intellectuals who denounce bigotry and yet accept bigoted claims. Throughout Europe mainstream politicians have denounced the rise of the far right. And throughout Europe mainstream politicians have adapted to far-right arguments, clamping down on immigration, pursuing anti-Muslim measures, and so on. They have sometimes even adopted the language.  In his first speech at the Labour Party conference after gaining the top office, former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown talked of ensuring ‘British jobs for British workers’, a slogan first popularized by the neo-fascist National Front. The National Front had twinned it with a second slogan: ‘Three million blacks. Three million unemployed. Kick the blacks out.’

Gordon Brown was, of course, not guilty of hate speech. But his use of that phrase probably did far more to promote xenophobic sentiment than any amount of ‘hate speech’ by far-right bigots. Challenging bigotry requires us to challenge the mainstream ideas that give it sustenance, and to campaign against those discriminatory social practices and laws that help make the arguments of the racists, the sexists and the homophobes more acceptable.

PM: Do you agree with those such as Robert Post and Ronald Dworkin who argue that banning ‘hate speech’ undermines, or at least weakens, the legitimacy of a democracy?

KM: Free speech and democracy are intimately linked. Without free speech there is no democracy. That is why any restriction on speech must be kept to the absolute minimum.

There are two ways in which banning hate speech undermines democracy. First, democracy can only work if every citizen believes that their voice counts. That however, outlandish, outrageous or obnoxious his or her belief may be, they nevertheless have the right to express it and to try to win support for it. When people feel they no longer possess that right, then democracy itself suffers, as does the legitimacy of those in power.

Not just the banning of hate speech but the very categorization of an argument or a sentiment as ‘hate speech’ can be problematic for the democratic process. I am in no doubt that some speech is designed to promote hatred. And I accept that certain arguments – like the direct incitement of violence – should indeed be unlawful. But the category ‘hate speech’ has come to function quite differently from prohibitions on incitement to violence.  It has become a means of rebranding obnoxious political arguments as immoral and so beyond the boundaries of accepted reasonable debate.  It makes certain sentiments illegitimate, thereby disenfranchising those who hold such views.

And this brings me to the second point as to why the banning of hate speech undermines democracy.  Branding an opinion as ‘hate speech’ does not simply disenfranchise those holding such a view, it also absolves the rest of us of the responsibility of politically challenging it. Where once we might have challenged obnoxious or hateful sentiments politically, today we are more likely simply to seek to outlaw them.

In 2007, James Watson, the co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, claimed of Africans that their ‘intelligence is not the same as ours’ and that blacks are genetically intellectually inferior. He was rightly condemned for his arguments. But most of those who condemned him did not bother challenging the arguments, empirically or politically. They simply insisted that it is morally unacceptable to imagine that blacks are intellectually inferior.   Britain’s Equality and Human Rights Commission studied the remarks to see if it could bring any legal action. London’s Science Museum, at which Watson was to have delivered a lecture, cancelled his appearance, claiming that the Nobel Laureate had ‘gone beyond the point of acceptable debate.’ New York’s Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, of which Watson was director, not only disowned Watson’s remarks but forced him eventually to resign.

I fundamentally disagree with Watson. Indeed I have written more than one book challenging such ideas, and have many times publicly debated their supporters. But I also think that it was as legitimate for Watson to have expressed his opinion as it is for me to express mine, even if I believe his assertion was factually wrong, morally suspect, and politically offensive. Simply to dismiss Watson’s claim as beyond the bounds of reasonable debate is to refuse to confront the actual arguments, to decline to engage with idea that clearly have considerable purchase, and therefore to do disservice to democracy.

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§ 11 Responses to MORE THOUGHTS ON HATE SPEECH AND THE LAW

  • rainbowman56 says:

    It is important to ban speeches who by themselves promote violence by dehumanizing the objectof hate.

  • rainbowman56 says:

    Sorry for the double posting. But see this: won’t you think it unlawful?
    http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/hate_posters_attack_gays_in_east_end_1_802822

    Freedom of speech shouldn’t cover hate mongering.

  • rainbowman56 says:

    Yes, I think abject motivations like racism and homophobia should lead to stricter punishment. intolerance’s not an opinion, but an antisocial attitude.

  • Kenan Malik says:

    We need, as I said in my interview, to distinguish between hate speech and incitement to violence. The latter should be illegal. The former should not. There are three reasons why hate speech should not be a matter for the law. First, because free speech is meaningless if it’s only free speech for those who say nice things. Second, because in practice you can’t challenge bigotry by banning it. You simply let the sentiments fester underground. And third because one man’s bigotry is another’s indispensible belief. Should we accept Dutch politician Geert Wilders demand to ban the Qur’an because it promotes ‘hatred’? Or the Muslim demand that The Satanic Verses should be banned because it is ‘hate literature’? And if not why should we accept your view rather than that of Wilders (and perhaps of the people of Holland who may get to vote on the issue) or of the millions of Muslims who think Rushdie’s novel incites hatred?

  • rainbowman56 says:

    But what if hate speech is PER SE conductive to violence? If I say that all moslems, catolics, homosexuals, vegans, and so on, are terrorists and a danger to the nation, i’m not inciting DIRECTLY to violence, but indirectly i’m justifying it. Can’t you see?
    We consider hate motivation for violence a factor that enhances the dangerousness and the penchant for crime of the perpetrator. Amd with cause, for hatred blurs the boundaries between licit and illicit, more so when hatred is move by fanatical ideologies. Rushdie “satanical verses “promoting hatred? Don’t make me laugh! If a person hates persons who don’t think like him/her, that’s THEIR problem. And some things like racism, homophobia, bigotry and oppression of women are just wrong, even igf they are some one’s “cherished belief!”

    • Kenan Malik says:

      I’m not sure that I’m the one who can’t see. The criminalization of indirect incitement is dangerous. First, because it creates a link between words and deeds that in most cases simply does not exist. If, for instance, I say that ‘Israel has turned Gaza into a prison camp’, am I then responsible for the actions of a suicide bomber that responds through indiscriminate killing? Second, because it stretches the boundaries of censorship. Many (and not just Muslims) saw the Danish cartoons (and especially the one that depicted Muhammad with a bomb in his turban) as ‘Islamophobic’ and suggesting that all Muslims were potentially terrorists. Should the cartoons have therefore been banned as hate speech?

      Third, because mainstream politicians using polished, mainstream language are far more responsible for creating a climate of hostility towards immigrants than are far-right hate mongers. It has become common for mainstream politicians to blame immigrants for social problems in their countries. Should we ban all such mainstream criticism of immigration?

      And fourth while I agree with you that The Satanic Verses should not be banned and that ‘If a person hates persons who don’t think like him/her, that’s their problem’ (that’s why I am a free speech advocate), it’s precisely the argument about indirect incitement that many Muslims used to try to criminalise The Satanic Verses. The liberal Muslim academic Ali Mazrui said of Rushdie’s novel, ‘A book can be a lethal weapon. A pen writing three provocative paragraphs in London could let loose a flood of dangerous consequences a world away. When is a writer guilty of manslaughter? Could it conceivably be at the moment of writing itself?’ There is much wrong with Mazrui’s argument, and I discuss it at length in From Fatwa to Jihad. But the point is that it leans heavily upon the idea of ‘indirect incitement’ and like all proponents of the indirect incitement argument, Mazrui fails to make the key distinguish between words and deeds.

    • Freshman says:

      “If I say that all moslems, catolics, homosexuals, vegans, and so on, are terrorists and a danger to the nation, i’m not inciting DIRECTLY to violence, but indirectly i’m justifying it”

      I see nothing wrong with saying any of those things. Your spelling is atrocious by the way. You are not justifying violence. You are simply saying that said groups are a threat to the nation.

  • Mina says:

    First of all, pardon my English!
    I just want to say that I agree with you, Kenan Malik, that democracy and free speech are intimately linked.
    But there is also a strong link between democracy and racial equality.
    When a person incites hatred against, for example, British asians, calling them inferior and tells them to go back to “where they came from” – that person is attacking democracy itself.
    Why? Simply because there can be no democracy if some people are treated as inferior. Democracy requires that all citizens have the same rights (and obligations).
    If a society accepts inequality based on ethnicity, faith or race that society is anything but a democracy.
    That’s why I think the debate over hate speech laws is more complex than you pretend it to be.
    Racism shouldn’t be treated lightly in a democracy. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that the best solution is regulation, because free speech is, as you say, a fundamental right in a democracy.

    • Kenan Malik says:

      Mina, I’m not sure where we disagree. After all, I said in the interview above, ‘To argue for free speech but not to utilize it to challenge obnoxious, odious and hateful views seems to me immoral. It is morally incumbent on those who argue for free speech to stand up to racism and bigotry’.

  • Mina says:

    Mr. Malik
    I’m just saying that we’re facing a dilmma.
    On the one hand, I agree with you that freedom of speech and democracy are “intimately linked” and that “without free speech there is no democracy”.
    On the other hand, as a democrat I think equality is just as important as freedom of speech.
    That’s why I think it is essential to battle racism and discrimination in every possible way.
    One way to do this is to have laws that punish hate speech. It should not be acceptable to treat fellow citizens as inferior, because this undermines the principle of democracy, which is equality.
    You see what I mean?
    Laws against hate speech are there to PROTECT democracy, or at least as a normative way of saying: “if you are inciting hatred against other etnicities or religious groups then you are attacking democracy itself and that is not acceptable”.
    This is my whole point. Laws against hate speech are not entirely evil and undemocratic.
    In fact, these laws exist because most people agree that racism and discrimination are threats to democracy.
    Having this in mind, the debate over hate speech becomes complicated than you pretend it to be.

    • Kenan Malik says:

      Mina, In your first comment you write ‘Racism shouldn’t be treated lightly in a democracy. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that the best solution is regulation, because free speech is, as you say, a fundamental right in a democracy.’ In your second comment you insist ‘I think it is essential to battle racism and discrimination in every possible way.
 One way to do this is to have laws that punish hate speech.’

      The two claims are contradictory. If you believe that regulation of hate speech isn’t ‘necessarily… the best solution’ to combating racism, then clearly you cannot argue that ‘laws that punish hate speech’ are ‘essential to battle racism’.

      I happen to agree with you first approach: racism should not be treated lightly, but taking racism seriously is not same as banning hate speech. In fact banning hate speech is often way of avoiding taking racism seriously because it is a way of avoiding tackling racist sentiments head on. That’s why many of those who oppose the far-right, and who argue for the banning of hate speech, are also the ones who claim that there are too many immigrants and asylum seekers, that foreigners are taking indigenous workers’ jobs and resources and that British jobs should be reserved for British workers.

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